What path should I take to be a CWNE and how long will it take?

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The CWNE is our elite certification. If someone wants to pursue this, what is your recommended path and timeframe?
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Tom Carpenter

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Everyone has a different opinion on how to get there. As far as the order of taking the exams, the path I took was CWNA, CSWP, CWAP, CWDP. 
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Tom Carpenter

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Yes, personally, my preference is CWNA > CWSP > CWDP > CWAP. But CWDP wasn't around back when you took your CWAP, was it?
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Rasika Nayanajith

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I agree with David, if you do CWAP & CWSP then most of the CWDP concepts should be cover. 

In general if you design, you should have understanding of how security works & packet level understanding of wifi operation.

Rasika
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But there is so much more needed to get to the CWNE level....  namely experience. Later in this session, we will discuss about how to get hands-on experience and the many tools that are available to obtain experience.
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Good point, we require 3 years of experience in the industry.
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Bryan Harkins

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The certification requires a minimum of three years experience in Wi-Fi.  That is the minimum time it should take to obtain the certification.  However, you will still need to pass the related exams.  As you start from scratch, study and work in the field.  Both things will assist you in obtaining the experience and knowledge the certification demands.  Of the 60+ industry certifications I hold, I value that one the most, because it requires real world knowledge and experience beyond books and the classroom.


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Tom Carpenter

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Yes, we also added what is loosely called a "Publishing Requirement" recently. It basically ensures that the candidate can not only pass the exams, but can explain the concepts to people as required - for example, customers, managers, etc. They can meet it by publishing a blog, a video, internal customer documentation and so forth. We also allow them to write whitepapers and publish them through us to meet the requirement.
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BTW.... Tom Carpenter is a CWNE and so is Mister Bryan Harkins of Aerohive who is also in this forum today.  Any other CWNEs here today?
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Martin Ericson

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Yes me!
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David Coleman, Official Rep

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I will say this.... CWNEs can make a LOT of money if you can achieve that goal. But more importantly, most CWNEs and CWNAs truly love Wi-Fi and love their jobs.
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Martin Ericson

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Makes me trustworthy in class.
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I don't agree. In the UK, CWNE is not that well know. Recruiters have never heard of CWNP therefore nor have their customer. Its a travesty.
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Martin Ericson

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CWNP is poorly recognized in EU. Only 17 CWNE across 40 countries. I know that they are working on that. There is also only a few training partners. They are working on that too.Some even fly in trainers from the US.

So let us change that.
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I really don't think that I will pursue a CWNE.  I know that lots of people in the industry rely on certs and base their wages on having certain certs but I personally think that they are overrated.  I have a degree in theoretical math but I work in IT.  How much of a benefit was all of that schooling and money spent on getting a piece of paper?  It was not for monetary or job gain but simply because I love the subject.
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Rasika Nayanajith

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Most important thing is the journey you go through to get these certifications. (whether it is CWNE, Cisco or Aruba, etc). If you study properly & get that knowledge, that's the most valuable part. If you can prove that you have skills to live up to the certificate standards, then you are a winner.

Most of people these days try to find short cuts & go behind a number or cert, hoping that will give respect/ higher demand for them etc. But you cannot cheat to yourself. If you can proudly say you went through a journey (in that case passing or failing exam does not matter, you have got the knowledge)

I started my CWNA/CWNP studies in Jan 2014 after completed my CCIE in wireless. So for me it took around 12 months to complete those (only CWDP left & scheduled it end of the month).

HTH
Rasika
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