Using an Access Point as Hive Manager - How many will it support?

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I have a been using an AP120 as a hive Manager for some time, in one classroom.  There are a couple of other access points in the hive in neighbouring classrooms. They work fine with the 30 school laptops in that area. Obviously that limits me to version 3.5v4 of the firmware. Actually - they work better than fine!  I've never seen the point in annual charges for on line management - until I saw the Cisco Meraki kit which is obviously very slick and impressive.  I now have some AP330 vintage access points and I note that you can enable the hiveUI manager on these - up to the last firmware in version 5. Perhaps they have more memory or a faster CPU than the AP120 units.

Does anyone know what the limits are to (a) the number of client Access Points can be supported by a single hiveUI access point manager?  (b) the number of connected users?  (I think the access points limit the number of connected devices to 64 on each AP, but there may be a limit in the hive?).

I tried the Ap330 units in a separate hive from the AP120 units - but client APs  seem to connect randomly to either hive - despite putting the IP address of the hive to specify which  access point is hivemanager. (also tried a CAPWAP client server name entry - which is probably the same thing). Once it appears ready in the hiveUI of the manager - even if you don't ask it to join  - or if you ask it to remove - it never finds or looks for another manager. Anyone else done this?  It would seem strange that you can't have two hives on the same network.
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I get that you don't see the point in it, but it addition to management that gives ease of configuration, monitoring and oversight, customers are also paying for the following when they maintain a subscription to HiveManager:
  • Software updates that give bug fixes, security fixes and feature enhancements.
  • Access to technical support.
  • A hardware warranty.
What you are asking about, for a long while now, is not officially supported and many-to-most people here will not be familiar with it. It is not likely to be relevant to any supported deployment.

The obsolete HiveUI does not impose limits on the number of associated clients. That's the concern of the AP in question.

I could not tell you with certainty what the limits are around the number of APs. I seem to remember it being 12 though.

Do you mean that you have the 3x3:2 AP320s or the 3x3:3 AP330s?

The AP330s are certainly not vintage and are not in the EOL process:
http://www.aerohive.com/support/endoflifeproducts.html
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Yes, sorry,
. They are ap320 devices...which can only support 2 streams or 300mb/s, which is twice the bandwidth we allocate to mobile devies so seem to work ok. We have yet to see mobile devices with 3 stream support, perhaps high end laptops are not in a school budget! I'd prefer manufacturers to support more streams rather than wider channels because high density of APs are more difficult to deploy well with wide channels.
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Now set with one access point per building acting as a hive manager for that building. Firmware /flash does not seem good at remembering which hive to connect to. I suppose I could set up a management vlan per building but currently just run a script to do catwap client server name command. Using captive portal with domain radius server means pupils don't need to remember an extra ppsk login.
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Why not disable discovery in the broadcast domain?