Desactivating wifi in a classroom when not used

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Hi, in France, when wifi is notre used in a classroom, it should be disactivated for health purposes. How can this be done ? Teachers have no technical skills. My project is a school with 25 classrooms, 45 teachers, 450 children receiving tablets...

I need each WiFi spot still on power ON in order to be able to manage it, but to reduce WiFi emission when nobody is using it or when the teacher does set it off.

I have not chosen a product yet.

My first idea was creating a script launched from the teacher's computer. This script would send an ssh command to setup WiFi for an hour. Is this technically possible ?

Maybe some product have a programmable button on the front of it doing the same thing ?

Which product can you advice to me ?

Thanks for your help and advice.
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With 450 children receiving tablets when will WiFi ever NOT be in use?
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Thi

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I hope it will be used. But :
1. French law is made so
2. Some teachers are afraid children will be on Facebook instead not listening or taking notes on the tablet
3. If to much children go on internet, the band with won't be big enough at the beginning of the project.
4. It is not y choice...

Thanks for helping me.

MiThi
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The real problem is that laws like this, which have no basis in science or fact, just cause unfounded anxiety and make things worse. They simply justify and pander to irrationality, easily engendering hysteria. Predictably, it's done under the guise of 'won't somebody think of the children!'.

It's non-ionising radiation!

Additionally, as Peter points out, the law will not do what it sets out to do which is to tangibly reduce RF exposure as there are so many other sources. It just ends up inconveniencing people and nothing more.

That said and aside, now that this is law in France, it is probably something that Aerohive will want to react to with a software feature to more easily allow radios to be switched on-and-off on an ad hoc basis by authenticated, permitted users while leaving the device powered up.

You can certainly use a SSH script as you suggest, but this should only be on a temporary/workaround basis as you would have to save/embed the device credentials in a place that is accessible to teachers and would also have to allow machines to have access to the management interface on the APs, both of which are very bad practice.

Were it me and I was compelled to do this, I would do so via SSH but by coding and using a system service/daemon on a server that acts as a proxy/intermediary for the request so that it can perform proper authentication checks on the requester as well as performing logging and sanity checks.

Hopefully one of Aerohive's PLMs can respond to this with their thoughts.
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We were made aware of the French law changes a little late for us to incorporate any changes in the versions of HiveOS and HiveManager that are currently in the final phases before release, but we have made plans to accomodate this in a more graceful manner than using SSH scripts in the next release after the one under way now.
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Hi.

I'm glad do see the reactivity of Aerohive on this topic.

I hope the features of the button will be programmable. For example, some school would ask to have a button to switch on/off the Wifi while another will prefer a button to switch for an hour (= a lesson) and let the Wifi turn off automatically without human action.

Greetings,

Mithi
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Well, as I am new to the Aerohive community, look in the settings to see if you can block specific sites through there. When I was in high school, I had a network named "iBoss" that would allow you to specifically restrict access to sites if you are connected to a network, but if Aerohive WiFi networks have this kind of feature, then you can use that on your Wifi network to restrict access to the network.

As I do not know very much about iBoss networks and Aerohive networks, you should ask someone who is experienced with networking capabilities to do this.

"My first idea was creating a script launched from the teacher's computer. This script would send an ssh command to setup WiFi for an hour. Is this technically possible ?"

Technically, to script code to initiate launching of a driver or network requires a lot of experience and effort, but for a duration, I do not know for certain. I used to make very simple .bat files and .vbs files as I am not a general good person at code or hacking, as I have no way of knowing for sure, but if anyone has good enough experience to do something like this and do what you want, you should ask them.

"Maybe some product have a programmable button on the front of it doing the same thing? "

You might want to search ALL Aerohive products here and if you are looking for more information, call a person who sells it or contact them through the internet outside the Aerohive and ask them the question, and see what they can give you.

Research takes time, and if you take the time to research them all, you can look for better options.

"Teachers have no technical skills."

Entirely, I don't believe this is the case, but I won't care about thoughts and opinions, but let us not conflict on this kind of thing. When I was in middle school, I had a teacher who worked at Microsoft in the 7th grade while I was at the school, nowadays he works at Microsoft for technical work when I went to high school. Later on during high school for half a year, I worked with a network manager who uses a Aerohive network for my school district. But for now I will forget the technical skill opinion you mentioned.

What I will say now is this:

Deactivating a Wifi network will require you to disconnect the Wifi network, how you will do it, is up to you to decide on your own, as like I mentioned to you before, I am new to the Aerohive community as I had only small simple experience with WiFi and such, but I'll quote this guy and give it a say...

"You can certainly use a SSH script as you suggest, but this should only be on a temporary/workaround basis as you would have to save/embed the device credentials in a place that is accessible to teachers and would also have to allow machines to have access to the management interface on the APs, both of which are very bad practice."

He's right. Scripting is not a simple thing unless you have experience with knowing how to code with specific kind of networks, this network is one of those powerful kinds that I know, so doing this is for the advanced, but because I am not a hacker or elite at hacking or the like, you want to do the one simple thing everyone should do to their network and things: Backup all the data and save it before you begin.